Is There a Difference Between the Christian and Mormon Salvations?
Andy Poland answered that question at the time that he shared his exit-from-Mormonism story with other former-Mormon and never-Mormon Christians, while on a mission trip to Manti, Utah, June 29, 2012, on the ocassion of the annual, 2-week long Manti Pageant. In one of the morning training sessions, with about 250 Christians attending, Andy shared his changed view of salvation and eternal life, particularly the diferences between his former belief that personal righteousness was the key to forgiveness, in contrast to his now biblical belief that the work of Christ is the imputed righteousness required for one's permanent forgiveness. The question that settled this issue for Andy was determining WHEN one recieves forgiveness and eternal life. Click below to watch Andy's presentation:
Want An Ex-Mormon Christian To Speak In Your Church?
Hi, I'm Andy Poland, a former Mormon and the General Manager of Concerned Christians. I am continually scheduling opportunities to share my testimony of how and why I left the Mormon religion to follow the Biblical Jesus. Whether adults or youth, Christians need to hear why Mormonism is not Christian. Bob Betts, the CC Missions Manager also teaches small groups, home groups and Bible studies about why Joseph Smith was not who the Mormon church claims he was, and refutes LDS doctrines using LDS scriptures and literature.
Book update: "Out of Mormonism" revised edition by Judy Robertson
The e-book version of the new edition of Out of Mormonism is now available wherever e-Books are sold. The soft-cover book is available at Concerned Christians, and in major bookstores everywhere. Soft-cover $14.99; e-book $14.99. Judy Robertson shares her unique insider’s viewpoint as a woman in the Mormon church. This reader-friendly book is one of the few Christian books that focuses first on an individual’s journey from Mormonism rather than on theology or Christian doctrines. The revised edition includes testimonies of others who have left the Mormon church and what God is doing today through Concerned Christians. Readers will find Out of Mormonism a useful resource for understanding and witnessing to friends and family in the LDS church.
Just How Important Is Joseph Smith To The Mormons?
Eternally important, according to Joseph Smith's successor, the Mormon prophet Brigham Young (shown in the photograph to the right). Quoting him, "Moses was as God to the children of Israel, so was Joseph to us, and NO MAN COULD LOVE GOD WITHOUT LOVING JOSEPH." [16 February 1849, Salt Lake City, Manuscript History of Brigham Young, Volume 3, pp. 156-175, from The Complete Discoursces of Brigham Young, edited by Richard S. Van Wagoner, published by The Smith-Pettit Foundation, distributed by Signature Books.] Really? No man could love God without loving Joseph Smith? Was this hyperbole, or was he serious? Apparently, he was serious. Here are other such statements by Brigham Young. "Every spirit that confesses that Joseph Smith is a Prophet, that he lived and died a Prophet and that the Book of Mormon is true, is of God, and every spirit that does not is of anti-Christ." October 6, 1844, History of the Church, Vol. 7, p. 287
National Conference on Mormonism - II
Announcing Concerned Christians' second annual national conference on Mormonism. Our speakers will address the question, “Why Have Scores of Mormons Been Resigning?” The dates will be April 12th and 13th, 2013, at Grace Community Church in Tempe. Featured speakers will be former-LDS, and TV host of The Heart of the Matter, Shawn McCraney; also featuring former-LDS Bishop and CIA Agent, Lee Baker, and his wife Kathy; last but not least, Daniel (Chip) Thompson, missionary to LDS in Utah and author of The Mormon Scrapbook. Click "Read the Full Story" for more details. Online Registration will begin on December 19th.
Concerned Christians' General Manager, Andy Poland, testified and taught at Mountain Bible Church in Payson, AZ.
cc debate forums discontinued
Oct 5|18:30
Last Updated on 12 September 2012
Apologetics does not need to be publicly confrontational. That is not to say that publically confrontational apologetics is wrong. However, on Andy Poland's watch, as the General Manager since January of 2009, Concerned Christians' mission emphasis has significantly shifted from confrontational anti-Mormonism to the more positive focus on the changed lives of many of the tens of thousands of Mormons who annually resign from the LDS church, who are now Christians. There are now so many Mormons in transition out of Mormonism, that arguing with on-line Mormons has become a waste of valuable time and resources. And, the "out" testimonies of those former Latter-day Saints are such powerful witnesses to the yet-to-be-converted out of Mormonism, that we have come to believe their stories are much more valuable than any argument with on-line Mormons who have dug in their heals against the truth of our biblically-based God and gospel message.
And, unfortunately, that's what some on-line discussion forums between Christians and Mormons have degenerated into - useless arguments that serve little purpose, but to foment angry words, name-calling, misrepresentations and often misinformation by both Christians and Mormons about both biblical Christianity and Mormonism.
For those reasons, a few years ago, I closed the CC discussion forums to devout Mormons, only allowing those doubting LDS and Mormons in transition out of Mormonism with sincere questions. When I did that, the discussions all but died. However, recent Mormon registrations onto the CC forums by Mormons who seemed sincere at first, but were not, have led to the closing of any further discussions, whatsoever. Instead, we have turned that forum into a "docu-forum" of the many documentations accumulated over the years, which will assist anyone in their research into why Mormonism is a false religion.
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John MacArthur Tells It Like It Is
Jul 13|22:29
Last Updated on 12 September 2012
Dr. John F. MacArthur, Jr. is a United States evangelical writer and minister noted for his internationally known and broadcast radio program titled Grace to You. MacArthur is a popular author and conference speaker and has served as the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California since 1969, and as the president of The Master's College (and the related The Master's Seminary) in Santa Clarita, California.
Theologically, MacArthur is considered a Dispensationalist and Calvinist, and a strong proponent of expository preaching.He has been acknowledged by Christianity Today as one of the most influential preachers of his time, and was a frequent guest on the Larry King Live TV talk show as a representative of an evangelical Christian perspective.
MacArthur has authored or edited more than 150 books, most notably the MacArthur Study Bible, which has sold more than 1 million copies and received a Gold Medallion Book Award. Other best-selling books include his MacArthur New Testament Commentary Series (more than 1 million copies), Twelve Ordinary Men, (more than 500,000 copies), and the children's book A Faith to Grow On, which garnered an ECPA Christian Book Award.
Dr. John MacArthur has and spoken with Dr. Robert L. Millet, a professor of ancient scripture and emeritus Dean of Religious Education at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah. Millet is a Latter-day Saint author and speaker with more than 60 published works on virtually all aspects of Mormonism.
Millet appears frequently as a commentator on BYUTV and in other visible roles at assorted media outlets as Manager of Outreach and Interfaith Relations for Church Public Affairs. As a religion instructor, Millet has become known for his "milk before meat" approach of avoiding less popular LDS doctrines when discussing the church with non-Mormons. He has popularized a slogan, which he once heard from a Mormon prophet, which side-steps difficult questions from non-Mormons, "Don't answer the question they ask, answer the question they should've asked."
Millet is considered by Mormons to be one of the foremost scholars on the Joseph Smith Translation (also known as the Inspired Version) of the Bible.
Millet received a Ph.D. from Florida State University in biblical studies and contemporary theology and a Master's Degree in Psychology from BYU. Millet has been a member of BYU faculty since 1983.
The following comments have been made by Dr. MacArthur as the result of his meeting with Dr. Millet...
"Out of Mormonism" for Androids
Jan 20|21:55
Last Updated on 06 September 2012
Concerned Christians now has an Android app for our Out of Mormonism Podcast programs. Just click here to download the app for only $1.99. At times we will also attach PDF documents to them. This app contains the following additional features:
* Streaming access to play episodes from anywhere * Always updated with the latest episodes- and an archived back catalog * Playback resume (when interrupted by a call or other distraction) * Access to exclusive extras like PDFs, wallpapers, and bonus content * Quick access to all the contact methods for the show like call, email, web, Facebook, and Twitter
click herefor anytime-listening to podcasts of Out of Mormonism
truth versus error
Joseph Smith: “I see no faults in the Church, and therefore let me be resurrected with the Saints, whether I ascend to heaven or descend to hell, or go to any other place. And, if we go to hell, we will turn the devils out of doors and make a heaven of it. Where this people are, there is good society." History of the Church, 5:517
1 John 2:16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
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Mormons, what good is your "restored gospel"? by bob betts
What good is your "restored gospel," if you don't live it, since you are perfectly able to do so? (1 Nephi 3:7)
What good are commandments, if you don't always completely obey them all, since you can? (1 Nephi 3:7; D&C 1:32)
What chance is there for "grace," if you don't do all you can and deny all ungodliness? (2 Nephi 25:23; Moroni 10:32)
What good is the atonement, if you don't totally repent of all your sins for all time? (D&C 82:7)
What good is repentance, if you don't completely forsake all your sins for all time? (D&C 58:42-43)
If you don't forsake all your sins, how can you be saved in the kingdom of heaven? (Alma 11:37; D&C 1:31-33)